Thursday, September 01, 2005

Mickey and Deism

Some of you out there know Mickey Pounders who was in school at Harding in the mid-70's. Mickey and Tawna lived in Searcy many years after they graduated, and now live in Baton Rouge. Their son John is a freshman this year at HU. I called them last night to see how they were making it, and Tawna said the only effect the hurricane had on them was some over-turned trees and such. She said the BIGGEST effect the hurricane has had on Baton Rouge is the human factor..........thousands of refugees. Getting around in the city is next to impossible, according to her. But here is the news I felt I needed to share with all of you who know them. Mickey has a younger brother named Jeffery who lived just east of New Orleans in Bay St. Louis, Mississippi. His house was only a few blocks from the coast. They have not heard from Jeffery since the hurricane hit. Please be prayerful for Jeffery, and all of Mickey's family.

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In times like these we are currently in, where we have tsunamis, hurricanes, wars, famine, and people flying airplanes into tall buildings.........I think it is only natural for Christians to ask where God is and what is He doing! If you read in your Old Testament, you quickly see those people sure did. The OT is FULL of people crying out to the Lord, for any number of reasons.......deliverance, explanations, wisdom, courage, and questions. Really tough questions, and sometimes in anger. So here is my question......why don't we cry out as a people in community? When is the last time we were called together to send up petitions for hours, let alone days and weeks? I remember getting together for an hour or so after Sept. 11th. And that is about the extent of it. Besides all the evident answers (excuses) like, "well, we are just too busy" and "it's just hard to get everybody together" ......let me throw out what I think is at the core of WHY we don't. If I offend somebody, just know that was not my intention. I think we have more Deist in our pews than you can shake a stick at. Many of us don't think God is REALLY REALLY active in the events of this world anymore! Why would you tear your clothes and fast and cry to the Lord for hours, days, and weeks if He really CAN'T or WON'T intervene in the events of our life and our world? DUH! So you ask what makes me conclude we have so many Deist? And I answer: What else is there to conclude? These aren't atheist we are talking about. They are people who believe in a God....or a Deity. Wikipedia said this about Deism: "The classical view is that the universe was created by a God who then makes no further intervention in its affairs." So you tell me, am I just way off base here? Do we mirror the people you read page after page after page about in the Old Testament, or do we mirror people who are deist? My impression is that we are a LOT more concerned with a God who wants things done "decent and in order" than a God who hears the cries of His people!

God forgive us.

7 Comments:

At 5:48 PM, Blogger PatrickMead said...

When one of us is sick, we pray for the doctors. When one of us is dying, we pray for peace and lack of pain. Our prayers are timid; watered down tea. One reason is, as you suggest, a form of Deism that believes that God cannot be concerned with us (how far is this from "Oh, yes, He cares! I know He cares! His heart is touched with my grief).

Philip Yancey, in his wonderful books "Where is God When It Hurts?" and "Disappointment With God" says there is another factor at work: we are trying to not get our hopes up and get upset at God, so we ask for nothing in particular, or generalities, and almost never lay out the fleeces He told us we could stretch out on the lawns of our lives. We are trying to protect God's reputation!

Our attitude needs to be that of Habbakuk. He started with a lament and a complaint. He listened. He ended with a "no matter what, I belong to the Lord and will rejoice in Him" mindset.

Good lament, David. Nothing wrong with that -- and let no one convince you otherwise.

 
At 6:42 AM, Blogger Donna G said...

I agree with you David. I want to be at prayer...but I won't organize it. And I agree with Patrick, if I ask generically I can't be dissappointed with the answer. What happened to approaching the throne of God boldly?

Lord increase my faith!!

 
At 8:03 AM, Blogger Jeff said...

Excellent thoughts, David. We need a better understanding of lament in our fellowship.

Keep up the good work, Bro.

Jeff

 
At 10:00 AM, Blogger Larry said...

We ask a lot of God, but our expectations are low; with this attitude and fuzzy faith, we should not be surprised when our prayers seem unanswered.

No one can fathom the workings of God, but when it's all said and done, only our deep faith and trust in Him-- knowing He is our anchor in a chaotic world-- makes it possible to have any peace of mind.

We are all Deists at times, and fully believing in the miraculous at other times. Perhaps as sinful creatures we will always approach God timidly, but we must strive to boldly approach His presence and expect our prayers to be answered in accordance to His will.

Often we ask for something then do nothing towards its fulfillment; please God help me support my family, then refuse to work.

If prayers can move mountains why are we satisfied with rearranging mole hills!

 
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